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Couple of new items coming from Dayton

Geoff shared a few pics from the Dayton booth at CES. Very interesting to say the least. 

Dsp unit 4in 8 out 31band eqs on ea in, 6 band peq on ea out, full bandpass crossovers on ea out and fully assignable, Bluetooth for iOS(pending) and Android apps. Remote and priced at $199. Possibly Mar release date.

New drivers Neo mags and carbon fiber cones 5.25 and 8" $300 and $400 respectively. 
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  • I think that cost will be hard to swallow...
  • That DSP looks interesting
     John H, thanks to JP I did get that email


  • RS28 replacements. Target price of $29.
  • RS28=copper?
  • The tinsel leads are not even stitched into the spider - wtf? 
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  • That DSP unit looks somewhat similar to the Cadence DSP4.8. If it doesn't have issues like the Cadence seemed to suffer from, they should sell a ton of those to the car stereo crowd.
  • Gowa said:
    RS28=copper?
    Actually, I think lack of copper, but that is only speculation 
  • Lot of differences there Tom. Look, eq, Bluetooth, etc. This is a new product near as I can tell.

    I thought the same thing JR. 
  • Wolf said:
    I think that cost will be hard to swallow...
    Those look like of the shelf frames. I hope not for that price. But the 8'' frame looks a little big for that surround. I may be wrong of course.
  • Yes, they do look like an off-the-shelf frame. I don't see a problem with that however, there's a bunch of real nice drivers that use "standard" frames such as Wavecor, and Acoustic Elegance.

    You are right on the surround meeting up with the frame, I had the same issue with the look of the Esoteric drivers where the surround sticks out past the frame, it doesn't look clean, which you'd expect considering the cost. A $30 Silver Flute should be a good example of what a clean driver can look like, and it doesn't cost an arm and a leg to get there.
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  • Yeah, the 8" looks a little awkward vis-a-vis surround and frame. The 5" seems relatively well appointed in that regards. The 8" looks like it was assembled piecemeal from a shelf full of shit. 

    I have no problem with off-the-shelf frames, but at this (alleged) price point I would like to have seen something similar to the Illuminator/Satori/NE frame types. I have $30 drivers that use a similar frame to these, and lets face it - when you have Scan/Accuton in your sights and your name is Dayton Audio, you had better be bringing your A-game. That means showing you did your homework, including spending a little time on the frame style.

    Dayton may have a winner here, I doubt most Scan Speak or Accuton fanboys will give two shits about these drivers (their minds are generally made up), but it may introduce a number of people to the concept of spending a metric fuckton of money on a pair of woofers - and the smarter commercial guys will be following these very closely. 
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  • dcibel said:
    Yes, they do look like an off-the-shelf frame. I don't see a problem with that however, there's a bunch of real nice drivers that use "standard" frames such as Wavecor, and Acoustic Elegance.

    You are right on the surround meeting up with the frame, I had the same issue with the look of the Esoteric drivers where the surround sticks out past the frame, it doesn't look clean, which you'd expect considering the cost. A $30 Silver Flute should be a good example of what a clean driver can look like, and it doesn't cost an arm and a leg to get there.
    How are the silver flutes? They have some good low pricepoint drivers 7-8" range i was eyeballing. Just skepticap to buy them without hearing their capabilities in person. 
  • Flutes have a nice relaxed sound. They are not super articulate but are forgiving of poor source material.They don't dig super deep, but do hold their own well.
  • D1PP1N said:
    dcibel said:
    Yes, they do look like an off-the-shelf frame. I don't see a problem with that however, there's a bunch of real nice drivers that use "standard" frames such as Wavecor, and Acoustic Elegance.

    You are right on the surround meeting up with the frame, I had the same issue with the look of the Esoteric drivers where the surround sticks out past the frame, it doesn't look clean, which you'd expect considering the cost. A $30 Silver Flute should be a good example of what a clean driver can look like, and it doesn't cost an arm and a leg to get there.
    How are the silver flutes? They have some good low pricepoint drivers 7-8" range i was eyeballing. Just skepticap to buy them without hearing their capabilities in person. 
    I've used the 8" and felt it was a great value. They aren't distortion leaders (basic motor with no copper), but nothing offensive about the sound either, I'd say they have the "classic paper" sound. I liked them very much as a retrofit for an old Realistic tower, and thought the build quality was phenomenal for the cost. They don't dig as deep as most drivers of their size, but you do get higher than average sensitivity as well.
    What?
  • edited January 12
    I agree, the Flutes are quite good for the price point. I had some a few years ago that I was quite happy with. I couldn't see anything wrong with the build quality. Nice and neat. I think if you're looking to build something with an economic pinch, the Flutes should serve you well. I think there was a Canadian company that used them in pricey floor-standers.
  • Okay, thats perfect. Im was thinking about when friends and family ask me to build stuff for them im trying to find the best bang for your buck drivers that are obviously not high quality but sound way better than they should. Either way it would be hard to sound worse than what alot of people are using. I know alot of people that just use their tv as speakers and i simply would barely watch any television without a set of good speakers. I think think that mcm 2669 5-1/4 is a really good sounding driver for $18. Im looking for killer sounding budget tweeter. 

    They usually dont believe me until they hear one of my systems. Usually they walk around trying to find a sub. I let them struggle to find them before saying yeh i dont have a sub dude.  
    PWRRYD
  • D1PP1N said:
     Im looking for killer sounding budget tweeter.   
    DX20 for $12, just saying...
     John H, thanks to JP I did get that email
  • Or the Dayton ND25FW for a few more.clams.
    jr@macdcibel
  •  when you have Scan/Accuton in your sights and your name is Dayton Audio, you had better be bringing your A-game. That means showing you did your homework, including spending a little time on the frame style.


    Thing is- Accuton uses that same frame in quite a few of their drivers.


  • So did MCM. 
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