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I am not going to write a lengthy review by any means, but I will just say that this:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HERNVFM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

...is much, more better than this:

https://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-dta-120-class-t-mini-amplifier-60-wpc--300-3800

Granted, the FX Audio will not run a pair of speakers - but it is light years above the Dayton as a headphone amp. Currently playing Mark Knopfler's excellent "Privateering" from HD Tracks through the Akai cans Nick steered us to.

I have played this album many times through my Sennheiser/DTA combo before and this cheap Akai/FX Audio are on par with my cheap Sennheiser. Keep in mind my Senn's are an entry level model, I forget which. I swapped gear around a few times to be sure, but I do prefer the Aka/FX combo. 

Anyways, I have spent far more on way shittier SQ. 
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  • edited November 2017
    Did you mean to link to the Dayton DTA-120? They're not exactly similar products, one is a DAC/preamp, the other is a power amp.

    Assuming you're just comparing the headphone output, how much does the sound worsen when you run your new FX DAC through the Dayton amp and plug your headphones in, compared to plugging your headphones directly into the FX DAC? If it sounds about the same, then you can assume that your previous source feeding the amp was the weak link.
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  • Let us just assume, for the sake of argument, that I was using a nice DAC to feed the (deliberately linked to DTA-120) for purposes of this very brief review. Let us also assume that I have used the same DAC in the past to connect to a wide variety of gear. Since I am not interested in pursuing this further, let us also assume this is actually a DAC that has had some pretty glowing reviews.

    Take the brief review for what it is worth, or leave it. 


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  • I'll leave it. I'm sure the FX is a great product, but the comparison makes no sense to me. Compare your new DAC to your old DAC, not your new DAC to your power amp. You seem convinced that the Dayton's headphone output is poor, and it probably is, but it sounds like you didn't make a comparison by plugging it into the new DAC.
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  • I listen on bluetooth, no DAC needed, Blutooth is capable all by itself to ensure no SQ survives
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  • I wonder what it looks like on the inside, but that FX-Audio DAC is using at its core a Cirrus chip that is also in many higher end audio components. Marantz and Oppo crands come to mind.
    = Howard Stark: "This is the key to the future. I'm limited by the technology of my time, but one day you'll figure this out."

  • JasonP said:
    I wonder what it looks like on the inside, but that FX-Audio DAC is using at its core a Cirrus chip that is also in many higher end audio components. Marantz and Oppo crands come to mind.
    There's plenty of images of the guts online, it looks like a pretty nice unit.
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  • This thread is timely - I've been looking at the X6. I'm trying to find an inexpensive DAC that will work with my iPhone 6s Plus. It doesn't need to be portable, just tucked away on my desk at work. But searching for info on what devices work with ios 11 isn't shedding much light on budget DACs yet.
  • In any event, it is a sweet little headphone amp, flawed testing aside 
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  • dcibel said:

    JasonP said:
    I wonder what it looks like on the inside, but that FX-Audio DAC is using at its core a Cirrus chip that is also in many higher end audio components. Marantz and Oppo crands come to mind.
    There's plenty of images of the guts online, it looks like a pretty nice unit.

    Here ya go:

    https://www.head-fi.org/threads/fx-audio-dac-x6-2016-release-potential-sub-100-king.809203



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  • edited November 2017
    This review was so compelling that I ordered one lol ;). I had actually been looking for something like this since my old DAC DIY project started having issues, and I just haven't had the energy to try and repair it. For the past while I've been using a Focusrite Scarlet 2i2 that I purchased as a portable interface for taking measurements, but it also works fine as a simple external soundcard, and I like that it has a seperate volume control for the headphone jack. However, while it sounds just fine, it isn't quite as resolving as my previous solution which was a very modified Zhaolu D2.5.

    The price was right on the FX Audio unit, unfortunately Amazon Canada doesn't sell it, but I ordered from ebay for CAD$75, which is about 1/4 of the price of the Sabre DAC I was looking at.

    My headphones are Master & Dynamic MH40, which probably deserve better than the Focusrite 2i2 headphone jack.
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  •    Boy has a Shitt dac and the only surviving PE Bravo tubed headphone amp.  It makes for an enjoyable sound.  I've been using the same Aune x1, dac/pre/headphone amp for several years with my Grados.  More revealing than his combo, but his sounds so luscious.  One of these days I'll pick up a Shitt headphone amp to finish his Shitty combo.      
  • dcibel said:

    My headphones are Master & Dynamic MH40, which probably deserve better than the Focusrite 2i2 headphone jack.
    Nice, I have the MH60. It is the wireless blutooth one! Though it is one of the better implementation of AptX, and has a very nice DAC and amp built in....
  • I highly recommend the MH40. My only complaint is the weight, it will fall off my head if I try to be mobile with them on, but for sitting at the computer, excellent. Fantastic build quality, comfort and sound. They have just the right tonality for me.

    I also have a pair of Sennheiser Momentum s (over ear model), but they just sit on the shelf now collecting dust.
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  • I like the MH60, it is lighter than the MH40 despite having gained an amp, DAC, bluetooth and batteries. I agree regarding the build quality, all metal and leather, and it does stay put on my head. It retains the MH40 sound signature and quality, but manages to squeeze in a bit more mid and treble clarity. Very little difference between wired and wireless. I do recommend it, but it is pretty steeply priced.

    I have it in gunmetal and black.
  • After more Googling, I'm not optimistic about the X6 working with my iPhone. There are not many budget guaranteed-to-work options for ios besides Fiio products. There is the Focusrite iTrack Solo...but I agree with dcibel on the Focusrite 2i2. It's smooth enough to be enjoyable - it measures pretty darn flat. But even compared to my outdated Musical Fidelity X-ACT dac, it's missing that intangible spaciousness. 
  • I ordered an X6 last night! I picked up a USB adaptor for my iPhone and got 3 different devices to work through a powered USB hub. Knowing that, I am now optimistic the X6 will connect without any issues...at least until the next ios update.
  • Tom_S said:
    I ordered an X6 last night! I picked up a USB adaptor for my iPhone and got 3 different devices to work through a powered USB hub. Knowing that, I am now optimistic the X6 will connect without any issues...at least until the next ios update.
    Did you get the Apple adapter?  Can you link to it?
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  • Yep the Apple MK0W2AM/A from Amazon. I'm sure Best Buy has them too. It seems ridiculous to spend almost $40 on a certified smart-dongle, but what can you do? Apple has you by the gonads! I should have my X6 on Friday - my fingers are crossed!
  • Secret Santa ordered one of the FX audio units. I just need to wait until february :P
  • Unfortunately still waiting for my xmas present from myself. It's been coming from China "en route to Canada" for a week and a half now. :(
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